The Käiser Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 Not sure if this is the best board but want to see the general consensus of users on here, especially those that are Germany fans. Should Löw be relieved of his duties?
Spike Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 Of course. If the spastic can’t figure out a winning combination with probably the deepest talent pool on the world, he has to go. By all rights you should have gotten to the finals of the Euros in 12 and 16.
nudge Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 Yes, but he is not going to be sacked, and it's up to him to decide if he wants to continue, so... I don't expect changes.
Administrator Stan Posted July 3, 2018 Administrator Posted July 3, 2018 I reckon he should go. Embarrassing to go out in the group stages in what wasn't a largely difficult group. Took Germany as far as he can when they won the tournament 4 years ago. Time for some fresh ideas perhaps. One that includes Sane in the squad
bozziovai Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 he won it 4 years ago but the germany we saw this year is nothing short of humiliating. but it's the players that are at fault, they're facking lethargic the whole competition ....
SirBalon Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 In my opinion it's not as clear cut as all that... Germany re-established their football circa 2000 and changed everything they had always been about. A new era was brought forward firstly with Jürgen Klinsmann and then subsequently Joachim Löw. The German members on here know the story so I'm not going to go through the whole contemporary history of the DFB and its restructure. The reason I say that it's not as easy as it seems is because of the product Germany's academies have been producing for nearly 20 years. They have a similar problem to Spain in terms of the brand of football they're playing and how teams setup against them. They've both suffered the same difficulties in terms of breaking down the walls setup in front of them. In all honesty in my personal opinion what occurred is an anomaly and all of them will have learned lessons from all of this and will have taken it all on board so as to tweak the errors. The only mistakes Löw made in my view is having shown and had blind faith in a number of the old guard which stunted the hunger of youth. Maybe Löw didn't want to risk it all with an all new generation taking the 2018 World Cup adventure on board... An error, but an error in hindsight. We're all very clever when we use hindsight like Gary Neville found out in his hilarious experience as a head coach for Valencia. Analysing what's been instead of managing what could be is a whole different kettle of fish and a certain modem of respect should be given to such a difficult job.
SchalkeUK Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 Not sure if the word 'fault' is appropriate here. Lowe's record is without question one of the best in recent history, but his reluctance to accept that he is getting older and lacks ability to relate to the youngsters is getting yth best of him. To go to Russia with Gomez who has been past his best since Germany threw him out for his cheating and pretending - second only to Marco Marin and even worse than Raheem Sterling - and after a dismal year in Munich Muller was also going to let him down. Boateng's inability to stop studying his own anus left him woefully short of decent defenders and sending Sane home to leave Timo Werner - good against BL poor defences but useless in the CL against good teams - as his main striker and Mesut sulking for not being allowed to play where he wanted and Julien always pouting and not really ready for serious big-time footy was always going to undo any plans he tried to make. The academies are still producing great youngsters and the junior sides prove that at U17, U19 and the Olympics.So why would he turn his back opn the kids and rely on the 'has-beens'. We did that for years in the UK and now our new leader has changed that with the result the team looks likely to progress tonight and maybe even further. Kloppy was brilliant at Dormund giving the young players their chance. Perhaps the National team will start to do the same - and if Lowe can do it - great. If not, time for someone like Klopp to take it over. That would probably be over every Anfield supporters dead body! Time for some serious thinking at the top!
Harry Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 since 1998 only Brazil won a cup and avoided elimination at the next cups group stage. 4 of the last 5 cups. How many of them kept that manager on afterwards?
Rucksackfranzose Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 Not the wisest of all possible decisions and therefore expected from DFB. Didn´t we have a vomiting emoticon on the old forums? We need it back.
bozziovai Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 37 minutes ago, Cannabis said: Yay! Two more years of bum sniffing! my best friend also has this mannerism ... funny as shit coz he'll do it anywhere anytime.
God is Haaland Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 Löw is a disgusting animal that needs to be seperated from society - both physically and visually.
SirBalon Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, BartraPique1932 said: Löw is a disgusting animal that needs to be seperated from society - both physically and visually. That's radical and extreme... I wonder what you think about people that have that tag attached to them by most of society. I can't fathom how you grade people with that sort of remark.
Moderator Tommy Posted July 3, 2018 Moderator Posted July 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, SirBalon said: That's radical and extreme... I wonder what you think about people that have that tag attached to them by most of society. I can't fathom how you grade people with that sort of remark. It's edgy, and therefore "extremely funny".
SirBalon Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Tommy said: It's edgy, and therefore extremely funny. Definitely made me feel edgy.
SchalkeUK Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 Yeh - not happy to see Bartra's comment and SirBalon is correct. This forum has always argued and disagreed between ourselves - but respectfully. Respect costs nothing and is worth loads! As SirBalon's tag says - keep the faith!
SchalkeUK Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 As is to stress the point above - what are the Swiss doing keeping the old men on and Embolo sits watching at the moment?
Rick Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 He is a bit rank though isn't he 😂 glad he is staying on though cause it means no approach for Klopp. 🤘
The Käiser Posted July 4, 2018 Author Posted July 4, 2018 21 hours ago, Harry said: since 1998 only Brazil won a cup and avoided elimination at the next cups group stage. 4 of the last 5 cups. How many of them kept that manager on afterwards? This. 100% agree. Guess the Nations league will show some answers are Nations going to take this new tournament seriously?
Devil-Dick Willie Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 He should have had the decency to fall on his own smelly sword
Subscriber Viva la FCB+ Posted July 6, 2018 Subscriber Posted July 6, 2018 Disappointed but not surprised as @Tommy already told me this was how It was going to go. Can you call it a wasted generation If they took home one world cup title? I still think so. At least the squad shakeup will be inevitable for Euros.
Faithcore Posted July 9, 2018 Posted July 9, 2018 On 6.7.2018 at 17:35, Teso dos Bichos said: Approach for Klopp? keeping Löw is crazy but replacing him with Klopp would be insane. Maybe as a motivational speaker but his tactics are too average for Germany. I would prefer someone with average tactics to the current football coach impersonator in charge.
Bluewolf Posted July 9, 2018 Posted July 9, 2018 Good news for German fans if Low is staying on then?? He says with a wry smile on his face..
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