The Premier Steve's 3,263 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) Edited June 1, 2017 by HoneyNUFC Ffs posted too soon before I had finished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Blue 853 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 City is gonna go all out this summer, Guardiola back to his best. Buy the best players and win the league, just like he did in Barcelona and Bayern. The keeper is a bit pricy, but City is known to pay over the odds, just look at John fucking Stones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy 7,131 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 He's a great young goalkeeper. Hefty fee, but Pep's gonna Pep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 1,788 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Chequebook manager. Mourinho II but with fancy football. Would Pep have got Huddersfield out of the Championship? No fucking chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Culture 1,592 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said: Chequebook manager. Mourinho II but with fancy football. Would Pep have got Huddersfield out of the Championship? No fucking chance. I love idiots like this who blow up and make ridiculous statements like this. Why would Guardiola manage Huddersfield Town anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machado 1,461 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 One of the best goalies in Europe for some time but isn't acknowledged as such because he played for Benfica, just like Oblak before him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carefreeluke 690 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, Machado said: One of the best goalies in Europe for some time but isn't acknowledged as such because he played for Benfica, just like Oblak before him. What do you make of Matic these days mate? How he's fallen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 1,788 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Smiley Culture said: I love idiots like this who blow up and make ridiculous statements like this. Why would Guardiola manage Huddersfield Town anyway? I was just saying that he's good with endless amounts of money and the best players in the world at his disposal, but would he be as good with no money and managing a club that finished 17th the year before in the Championship? Pep took over a magnificent Barca side containing the best player in the world, then moved onto Bayern who have the best players from Germany, before moving on to the richest club in England who are now spending like money's gone out of fashion. No need for the idiot jibe really is there? Edited June 1, 2017 by LFCMadLad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toony 95 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 People thought Bravo was the man for them and it turned out that he wasn't so I think we'll just have to wait and see. I do expect this to be the end for Joe Hart though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshBRFC 1,095 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, LFCMadLad said: Chequebook manager. Mourinho II but with fancy football. Would Pep have got Huddersfield out of the Championship? No fucking chance. Ridiculous. It's crazy how much people under appreciate these successful managers just because they've been at big clubs like it's a a guarantee for success. Edited June 1, 2017 by JOSHBRFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 3,311 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 ZERO international caps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue 1,413 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) Yaaaaay, best keeper in da world!!!! ..the quad is on!! Edited June 1, 2017 by Happy Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 3,311 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Nah, his first stint at Barcelona was special, Bayern was nothing remarkable. Takes a lot of balls to gut Barcelona the way he did, Eto'o, Deco, Zambrotta, and Ronaldinho, while putting all his eggs in youth unproven players like Pedro, Pique, Busquets, etc. He made some fucking shite transfers and he still makes terrible transfers but Barcelona was pretty amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoRoss 712 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 I hope Claudio Bravo gets a move away. He looked a shadow of himself at times last season. Returning to Spain and they'll be a host of suitors for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 236 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 15 minutes ago, Spike said: Nah, his first stint at Barcelona was special, Bayern was nothing remarkable. Takes a lot of balls to gut Barcelona the way he did, Eto'o, Deco, Zambrotta, and Ronaldinho, while putting all his eggs in youth unproven players like Pedro, Pique, Busquets, etc. He made some fucking shite transfers and he still makes terrible transfers but Barcelona was pretty amazing. If messi didn't turn out to be messi though, and everything else worked out the same way I don't believe they'd have won as much as they did with him honestly. Nothing against the other youth who came to their own during that time. 49 minutes ago, JOSHBRFC said: Ridiculous. It's crazy how much people under appreciate these successful managers just because they've been at big clubs like it's a a guarantee for success. I agree with this sentiment to an extent, but when you have arguably the best player in the world at Barcelona and then Bayern Munich where you were obviously the best team and then bought out the competition... I think this test at City is more of a true challenge at the moment. 6 hours ago, Toony said: People thought Bravo was the man for them and it turned out that he wasn't so I think we'll just have to wait and see. I do expect this to be the end for Joe Hart though. That's exactly it though, Bravo was supposed to be the solution after how well he looked at Barcelona and internationally. I don't think he's a bad keeper but he didn't have the confidence in England and now with them buying another gk that has to shatter his confidence. He needs to get out England or at least City asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 3,311 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Just now, Dickie said: If messi didn't turn out to be messi though, and everything else worked out the same way I don't believe they'd have won as much as they did with him honestly. Nothing against the other youth who came to their own during that time. What an odd thing to say. You can literally say that about any variable. If Diego Milito didn't hit form of his life would Inter have won the treble? If Diego Maradona was called for handball would Argentina have won the WC? If Ronaldo didn't have a seizure would Brazil have won the WC? Pointless ifs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viva la FCB 1,489 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 6 hours ago, LFCMadLad said: I was just saying that he's good with endless amounts of money and the best players in the world at his disposal, but would he be as good with no money and managing a club that finished 17th the year before in the Championship? Pep took over a magnificent Barca side containing the best player in the world, then moved onto Bayern who have the best players from Germany, before moving on to the richest club in England who are now spending like money's gone out of fashion. No need for the idiot jibe really is there? I mean if thats your gauge for judging a world class manager theres nothing to be said. None of the "top" managers in the world are going to manage a championship side just to prove something to the naysayers. Hes not the second coming of jesus but he is a top class manager and that shouldnt even be a debate to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 4,285 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 What needs to be noted and discussed as a possibility is whether or not Barca would of had that resurgence if Spain hadn't have won Euro 2008. Through Aragones, Xavi and Iniesta developed a growing confidence and intricate way of playing football, that only became stronger under Guardiola. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 236 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 13 minutes ago, Spike said: What an odd thing to say. You can literally say that about any variable. If Diego Milito didn't hit form of his life would Inter have won the treble? If Diego Maradona was called for handball would Argentina have won the WC? If Ronaldo didn't have a seizure would Brazil have won the WC? Pointless ifs. But you run into those "ifs" when you debate things like managers, nothing is a definite like said before a "top manager" going to a "top club" doesn't mean it's going to equal silverware. That's when you get to start asking those ifs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel81x 2,611 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Back on topic. What happens if this guy fizzles as well. Now City have how many GKs they don't need anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue 1,413 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 20 minutes ago, ScoRoss said: I hope Claudio Bravo gets a move away. So do i ..id even pay his travel expenses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 3,311 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 24 minutes ago, Dickie said: But you run into those "ifs" when you debate things like managers, nothing is a definite like said before a "top manager" going to a "top club" doesn't mean it's going to equal silverware. That's when you get to start asking those ifs. No, you don't ask 'ifs' about the past, that is pointless, you ask them about the now. We discover nothing by examining variables of a decade ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 236 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, Spike said: No, you don't ask 'ifs' about the past, that is pointless, you ask them about the now. We discover nothing by examining variables of a decade ago. Booooo you're no fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,607 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Guardiola wanted Gerónimo Rulli from Real Sociedad (I believe he was once on City's books) and the player refused to move there from what I've read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 1,788 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 11 hours ago, Viva la FCB said: I mean if thats your gauge for judging a world class manager theres nothing to be said. None of the "top" managers in the world are going to manage a championship side just to prove something to the naysayers. Hes not the second coming of jesus but he is a top class manager and that shouldnt even be a debate to be honest. Fair enough, I probably didn't put my point over very well. I know top tier managers aren't going to go and manage a Championship side but what I meant was is that Pep hasn't ever really been tested yet. It seems City is going to be his biggest test yet and his first season was a little underwhelming (first time no trophies ) He'll probably improve them this coming season but so he should with the amount of money at his disposal. Is it over £100m already and the transfer window isn't even open yet! Im not comparing the two in any way here but come on, you could give Fat Sam a few hundred million to build upon what City already had and even he'd challenge for the title. I just think these top tier managers like Pep get an easy ride and get lorded over when they've done nothing more than what was expected. Good manager no doubt but hasn't done anything yet to prove he's a great one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viva la FCB 1,489 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 7 hours ago, LFCMadLad said: Fair enough, I probably didn't put my point over very well. I know top tier managers aren't going to go and manage a Championship side but what I meant was is that Pep hasn't ever really been tested yet. It seems City is going to be his biggest test yet and his first season was a little underwhelming (first time no trophies ) He'll probably improve them this coming season but so he should with the amount of money at his disposal. Is it over £100m already and the transfer window isn't even open yet! Im not comparing the two in any way here but come on, you could give Fat Sam a few hundred million to build upon what City already had and even he'd challenge for the title. I just think these top tier managers like Pep get an easy ride and get lorded over when they've done nothing more than what was expected. Good manager no doubt but hasn't done anything yet to prove he's a great one. Ill still debate that Big Boned Sam could have walked into Barcelona and won the treble that season. Pep made a ton of changes to that team and im sure your well aware of the bold moves he made and the promotion of certain players and moving out the Eto'o's (i dont know how to make that plural lmao) on the team, the ageing stars as it where. Im with you in that City is by far his biggest challenge and he has alot to prove there still to say the least. Its also not his fault he has alot of deadweight on the wage bills. Looking at their roster before he joined would you think they should be contenders? to be fair he did spend alot like and more already as you mention but hes got to be given a least another season to see what can be done. If after that he fails, he fails. It still wouldnt change my opinion of him. Watching him work with our squad for three seasons was interesting to see a few things. I can only think of a handful of players that didnt look to improve durring his tenure here. There was a clear system and purpose and when the players baught in it was very easy on the eyes. The young players where given a chance and if/when they excelled such as Kimmich he had full trust in them. I have nothing against Ancelotti but if i was offered the chance to have Pep back i would take it in a heart beat. It says alot that our management still wanted to extend him even without achieving "the" goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted 1,545 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 21 hours ago, SirBalon said: Guardiola wanted Gerónimo Rulli from Real Sociedad (I believe he was once on City's books) and the player refused to move there from what I've read. What the hell happened with him? Am I totally imagining this, or was he not on City's books for half a season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 1,788 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Viva la FCB said: Ill still debate that Big Boned Sam could have walked into Barcelona and won the treble that season. Pep made a ton of changes to that team and im sure your well aware of the bold moves he made and the promotion of certain players and moving out the Eto'o's (i dont know how to make that plural lmao) on the team, the ageing stars as it where. Im with you in that City is by far his biggest challenge and he has alot to prove there still to say the least. Its also not his fault he has alot of deadweight on the wage bills. Looking at their roster before he joined would you think they should be contenders? to be fair he did spend alot like and more already as you mention but hes got to be given a least another season to see what can be done. If after that he fails, he fails. It still wouldnt change my opinion of him. Watching him work with our squad for three seasons was interesting to see a few things. I can only think of a handful of players that didnt look to improve durring his tenure here. There was a clear system and purpose and when the players baught in it was very easy on the eyes. The young players where given a chance and if/when they excelled such as Kimmich he had full trust in them. I have nothing against Ancelotti but if i was offered the chance to have Pep back i would take it in a heart beat. It says alot that our management still wanted to extend him even without achieving "the" goal. That's fair enough mate, you've seen how he works in much more depth than I have. I'm probably doing him a disservice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnersauraus 812 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 22 hours ago, Happy Blue said: So do i ..id even pay his travel expenses He was the best keeper in the world this time last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,607 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Inverted said: What the hell happened with him? Am I totally imagining this, or was he not on City's books for half a season? I don't know but I bet Guardiola must be asking questions of the technical staff because he's a brilliant young prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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