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Barcelona 3-0 Liverpool - Wednesday 1st May, 2019 (SF 1st Leg)


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Liverpool fans were the first to remind everyone after the Cardiff game that you have to go down to make sure the referee knows it's a foul these days so I have to say I'm confused about the complaints about Messi and other Barcelona players going down easily now*. o.O

 

 

*I was out all night and have only seen the goals and clips posted in this thread so I'm in no position to comment but just seeing if there's a potential fire I can stoke.

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3 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I feel like if we don't score in the first 20, he's going to figure out our back four and Messi all over it. Seems to be the case in Europe.

Good call.

1 hour ago, Rick said:

You know what. Fuck this bunch of rat bastards. We can score against these at home. Klopp should have started Firmino tonight and Trent an all. Trent bombing forward would have given them a massive headache. Hopefully we see out actual best 11 start next week. 

I said tie over before, but we can put goal past these horrible fuckers.

I totally agree. Barca were wary and their approach of sitting deep flattered us imo. We had more of the ball than we expected so we feel we played well...

We missed Trent a lot and although Robbo was on the pitch he wasn't his usual self, staying much deeper than usual and crossing from deeper positions. Clearly under instructions.

You'll tear me apart for this but as far as I'm concerned Klopp got psyched out for this tie, over thought everything, changed or usual approach and basically lost it for us.

We say we played well but I think Barca's game plan worked perfectly. They weren't trying to do things differently than what they did. And they won with an unblemished scoreline. If we'd played our strongest lineup and gone for the jugular early this tie could have been in our hands by half time.

1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

 

 

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People realise that Firmino had an injury, yeah? Failed a fitness test to start the game? 

The Trent one, I can understand where people are coming from but can also understand why Klopp went with Gomez. If Milner and/or Salah score we're not having this conversation though

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2 hours ago, Burning Gold said:

Salah's got to be the worst player ever to break the Premier League goalscoring record. He's a brilliant player, but he's also breathtakingly shit sometimes

I'm glad someone said itxD

 

I honestly feel the same about Mane. Has deadly pace and makes good runs. But his finishing is either elite or dogshit and there's no in between, and his first touch 8/10 times is fucking horrendous. Like, championship level. I nearly spat my drink out when he scored that goal against bayern because 9 times out of 10 he probably brings that ball down with the grace of a mad cow and loses the chance.

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30 minutes ago, LFCMike said:

People realise that Firmino had an injury, yeah? Failed a fitness test to start the game? 

The Trent one, I can understand where people are coming from but can also understand why Klopp went with Gomez. If Milner and/or Salah score we're not having this conversation though

My post was really about the way we used our fullbacks.

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3 hours ago, Inverted said:

Andy Robertson motm at the Camp Nou. 

Imagine it. 

 

3 hours ago, Inverted said:

Get your hands off Andy, Suarez you puta. 

 

3 hours ago, Inverted said:

Andy Robertson is the only player who can be the furthest forward in an attack, and then be the one who snuffs out the counter. 

 

2 hours ago, Inverted said:

Besides Messi Andy was Motm. 

What a player. Not sure there's a club out there that can really do him justice. 

 

1 hour ago, Cannabis said:

Rustled jimmies on the menu for Kevin Williams it seems. 

 

Andrew Robertsons dick on the menu for Inverted it seems 

 

Or should I say... Andy...

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3 minutes ago, Harry said:

My post was really about the way we used our fullbacks.

Line I said, I get people questioning Gomez instead of Trent but I think Klopp knew that their left side was strong with Alba being a huge influence.

Liverpool had chances. More than enough chances to still be within a realistic chance of qualifying. We didn't take them. Don't think we can lay a great deal of blame on the manager tonight. If you don't take your chances, you get punished by great sides

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Story of Liverpool's season. So near and yet so far.

See all those match stats and maybe only Man City could go to Barca and match those stats.

Should have walked away with 2 away goals minimum and be firmly in this tie. Now they have about a 10% chance of going through now. Extremely low.

Going to break all sorts of records from a personal perspective in the league and probably still finish 2nd in the league.

Even when they score one of the quickest goals in the season after 15 seconds, Shane Long goes and does it in 7 xD

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47 minutes ago, LFCMike said:

Line I said, I get people questioning Gomez instead of Trent but I think Klopp knew that their left side was strong with Alba being a huge influence.

Liverpool had chances. More than enough chances to still be within a realistic chance of qualifying. We didn't take them. Don't think we can lay a great deal of blame on the manager tonight. If you don't take your chances, you get punished by great sides

But because of that caution our right side was much less effective. Barca defend by reputation of the potency of their attack. We played into that by being more guarded than we should have been imo. 

It's also a missed opportunity for Trent in his development.

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2 hours ago, Harry said:

But because of that caution our right side was much less effective. Barca defend by reputation of the potency of their attack. We played into that by being more guarded than we should have been imo. 

It's also a missed opportunity for Trent in his development.

Judging by today they also defend by defending pretty well and having a great keeper.

Was not starting Trent a mistake? Maybe - if we were worried about Alba... he did end up getting an assist for their opener. So maybe not worried enough, maybe too worried? Who knows.

I don’t think there’s a lot you can be upset with the manager about here tonight though. We went away to Barcelona and put in a great performance, if just one of those good chances we had could have been put away the complexion of the return leg would have been very different. Ultimately that’s on the players to finish their chances off. They didn’t, now getting knocked out looks likely.

Its going to take one hell of a performance to get through. All Barca have to do now is sit back and counter. And they did that really well today. I can’t see them not scoring at least 1 goal, so we need to be ready to have an outrageous performance or get really lucky. I doubt either of those things happen.

Maybe. And I hope it does. But I doubt it

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Can't overly blame the side despite losing 3 nil. 

Barca defended well. As for the Trent bit, I said it at the end of the first half as well. We allowed Alba a free wing to consistently exploit, and so he did. 

On a side note, Vidal was great. And so was Robbo. 

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1 hour ago, MUFC said:

This has always been my favorite free kick, view from behind is brilliant. But after last night might have to change.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjkjoky4Hac

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX0y1kumtss

Dis one is my favorite. The ball shapes left, then goes right a fair way, then decides it wants to drift left after all. Juninho was a freak. 

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5 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Judging by today they also defend by defending pretty well and having a great keeper.

Was not starting Trent a mistake? Maybe - if we were worried about Alba... he did end up getting an assist for their opener. So maybe not worried enough, maybe too worried? Who knows.

I don’t think there’s a lot you can be upset with the manager about here tonight though. We went away to Barcelona and put in a great performance, if just one of those good chances we had could have been put away the complexion of the return leg would have been very different. Ultimately that’s on the players to finish their chances off. They didn’t, now getting knocked out looks likely.

Its going to take one hell of a performance to get through. All Barca have to do now is sit back and counter. And they did that really well today. I can’t see them not scoring at least 1 goal, so we need to be ready to have an outrageous performance or get really lucky. I doubt either of those things happen.

Maybe. And I hope it does. But I doubt it

I'd label it that he was too cautious away from home in the Champions league first leg in a similar way that Pep was against Spurs.

All the plaudits about how great a performance we put in sound like the comments I hear from people that lose to Atletico Madrid or Juventus... We had the most possession. We were the better team. Etc. At the end of the day the tactics of the other team aimed for us to have most of the ball. We took it and knocked it around and did reasonably well in doing that but their gameplan worked and ours didn't.

Basically I think it was a mistake from Klopp to be more cautious against Barca than he's ever been against Manchester City. His caution first tactical approach created a mindset that we were minnows playing a superior opponent and it showed in the tentativeness and lack of confidence and killer instinct in taking our chances that we've come to expect in every other game from our attack. IMO

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19 minutes ago, Devil-Dick Willie said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX0y1kumtss

Dis one is my favorite. The ball shapes left, then goes right a fair way, then decides it wants to drift left after all. Juninho was a freak. 

There isn't a better free-kick specialist imo. If you want a man on the ball in that kind of situation he is #1 always.

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So anyone else think it’s pretty concerning that Klopp doesn’t trust Sturridge, Origi or Shaqiri against Barca, and would rather play Gini in the front 3 against Barca?

I’m not really surprised because Sturridge is now totally shite, Origi is only worth playing against Everton for some reason, and Shaqiri doesn’t get a look in anymore. I would have thought Shaqiri would have been a better fit though 

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12 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

So anyone else think it’s pretty concerning that Klopp doesn’t trust Sturridge, Origi or Shaqiri against Barca, and would rather play Gini in the front 3 against Barca?

I’m not really surprised because Sturridge is now totally shite, Origi is only worth playing against Everton for some reason, and Shaqiri doesn’t get a look in anymore. I would have thought Shaqiri would have been a better fit though 

I think he'd be concerned about Shaqiris defensive work rate not being on par with Firmino. So a decision with conservatism in mind.

When I saw the lineup I assumed he was playing a back 3 with Milner as a wing back and Mane and Salah playing narrower with wing banks overlapping. I assumed the tv got the formation wrong when they showed Gini in the front three tbh.

Whichever way you look at it there's a massive indicator of a need for summer reinforcements. 

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You know what, I've never known a Barcelona team to be able to defend as well as this one and be able to spend lengthy periods without possession and not get hammered. A lot of last ditch tackles and sometimes mistakes, but they kept a clean sheet and Ter Stegen only had to make around 2 class saves(along with the goal line clearance and Salah hitting the post), despite Liverpool having a lot of possession and looking very dangerous. Pique has been immense as the season has progressed and is having the best season of his career in my opinion.

3-0 didn't tell the story in the end I wouldn't say as it was a closer game than that, but another thing I like about this side is how clinical they are. It's not always great to watch compared to past Barcelona teams and the wins aren't always done so in the most convincing of manners, but with Xavi and Iniesta no longer around, the team have had to evolve in order to continue succeeding.

Semedo should start in every important game as he did a fantastic job when he came on. He does get plenty of minutes, although is always utilised in rotation with Sergi Roberto. I like Roberto, he's a very versatile player who can occupy various positions to a good level, although as a full back alone, Semedo is easily better for me.

Vidal has been an unsung hero this season and you can see why Valverde likes to have a player like him in his squad, it was a wise decision to start him last night. Arthur is quality and will be a key player for many years to come, although due to his young age and slight lack of experience, I don't think this specific game was for him at this moment in time. Liverpool under Klopp are a ruthless team, they scare the shit out of you and you need warriors like Vidal in these type of occasions.

Fair play to Suarez, he took his chance well and while he is nowhere near as consistent as he was, he still manages to score goals when it matters the most. His goal was very important as it opened the dead-lock in a game which could easily have gone the other way. I don't get the criticism of him celebrating though as he had just scored in the semi final of a competition that he will be dying to win again. How could you not celebrate in that situation? Liverpool fans shouldn't take that one personally as he's always speaking highly of them.

As for Messi, there isn't much I can say about him that I haven't been saying for about 13 years, but that free-kick was ridiculous. As good as a free-kick as you'll get and Klopp's reaction said it all. I would say he was a bellend for making the most of Milner's challenge though as it was uncharacteristic of him. You'd expect it from Alba(who was also class last night, both defensively and offensively) but not from Messi. Other than that, I thought he showed great leadership abilities last night and he was well up for that game despite having 4 players on him whenever he picked up the ball.

Liverpool were actually brilliant though for me in periods last night. Easily the best side Barcelona have had to face this season and how that was 3-0 was surprising. In saying that, there could quite easily have been 5 Barcelona goals scored last night as Dembele should have buried both of those late chances. You can tell he's lacking sharpness after coming back from injury or you'd have fancied him to have scored those 2 chances, especially the 2nd one.

Personally I don't think this tie is over as Anfield is one of the worst grounds to go to and Liverpool are certainly a side who are capable of scoring 4 goals on their day against any side.

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