6666 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Funny that people are saying he's tarnishing his Man Utd legacy now. People forget that he called himself a slave to force through a move to Real Madrid and Man Utd fans still cheered him on like he was their player after he moved there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnersaurus Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 33 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Experiencing a tragedy doesn’t really justify doing an interview where you go scorched earth on your club & teammates tbh People don't think clearly when things like that happen. Maybe it would have happened anyway maybe it wouldn't. I'm no fan of Ronaldo but he lost his daughter. Most people never go through that kind of grief so they don't really understand what he's going through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 5 hours ago, Tommy said: I was going to ask who changed that, but it would have been a rhetorical question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 15 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Absolutely mental interview. Basically burning all bridges at United really. Love it I started reading at "Love it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Gunnersaurus said: People don't think clearly when things like that happen. Maybe it would have happened anyway maybe it wouldn't. I'm no fan of Ronaldo but he lost his daughter. Most people never go through that kind of grief so they don't really understand what he's going through I agree that no father should ever be put in the awful position of having to arrange for their infant child to be buried. And yes, that will certainly affect someone. I truly am sympathetic with the massive loss and grief he's suffered and probably suffers on a daily basis as a result of losing his kid. But I don't think his actions here can just be explained away by "he's suffering from grief." I think he's angry that he's in the twighlight days of his career and he's not viewed as big or important enough to be what United's attack is built around. He wanted out of United in the summer - he made that pretty clear and the club was willing to let him go for free, so I don't know how he can now claim that he's being forced out. He's thrown teammates under the bus, he's thrown his current manager under the bus, and he's made an attempt at publicly humiliating the last 2 former United managers (who tbh didn't really leave United with their reputation intact... so it comes off as a bit harsh)... but it's not any of their fault he's old and can't be asked to do what's expected of an attacker in modern football. He was the one who decided to join United over City - he knew United were not in good shape and in desperate need of a rebuild to truly compete at the top. He didn't care and took the move back to United, in the process made things difficult for managers trying to fit him into a side and get the best out of the side... while also taking up valuable cash resources to let United rebuild quicker. He had the easy choice of spending the last days of his career slotting in tap ins at City as they hunt for glory with a team that just needed a good finisher last season... he turned it down to help the club he made a name for himself. But he's not helped them and it looks like he's doing all he can to tarnish his legacy at United... a second time. And I don't think this interview does him any favours - I can't see many top clubs wanting to deal with this kind of ego and this kind of behavior for a 37 year old who has excessive wage demands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Gunnersaurus said: People don't think clearly when things like that happen. Maybe it would have happened anyway maybe it wouldn't. I'm no fan of Ronaldo but he lost his daughter. Most people never go through that kind of grief so they don't really understand what he's going through He has dozens of people around him advising him on everything, and a lot of them would have given him the advice that this interview is fucking stupid. Yes, he went through an awful tragedy but I don’t believe that is affecting his thinking here. He has a track record of being a selfish, self centred prick. He wanted out in the summer but nobody put the money up, so he’s going the only way he knows he will get out for free and that’s by burning all bridges. Absolute rat, who will get what he wants because why would Utd want him around after this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnersaurus Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 45 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: I agree that no father should ever be put in the awful position of having to arrange for their infant child to be buried. And yes, that will certainly affect someone. I truly am sympathetic with the massive loss and grief he's suffered and probably suffers on a daily basis as a result of losing his kid. But I don't think his actions here can just be explained away by "he's suffering from grief." I think he's angry that he's in the twighlight days of his career and he's not viewed as big or important enough to be what United's attack is built around. He wanted out of United in the summer - he made that pretty clear and the club was willing to let him go for free, so I don't know how he can now claim that he's being forced out. He's thrown teammates under the bus, he's thrown his current manager under the bus, and he's made an attempt at publicly humiliating the last 2 former United managers (who tbh didn't really leave United with their reputation intact... so it comes off as a bit harsh)... but it's not any of their fault he's old and can't be asked to do what's expected of an attacker in modern football. He was the one who decided to join United over City - he knew United were not in good shape and in desperate need of a rebuild to truly compete at the top. He didn't care and took the move back to United, in the process made things difficult for managers trying to fit him into a side and get the best out of the side... while also taking up valuable cash resources to let United rebuild quicker. He had the easy choice of spending the last days of his career slotting in tap ins at City as they hunt for glory with a team that just needed a good finisher last season... he turned it down to help the club he made a name for himself. But he's not helped them and it looks like he's doing all he can to tarnish his legacy at United... a second time. And I don't think this interview does him any favours - I can't see many top clubs wanting to deal with this kind of ego and this kind of behavior for a 37 year old who has excessive wage demands. I really don't think we're going to agree on this so gonna leave it there. Same for @Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 I wasn't going to say this but occasionally you read something and it strikes a chord that you can't not. As someone who can speak of the real life experience of their other half going through a miscarriage, I can categorically say that it never made me feel like chucking my toys out the pram at work and acting like a complete twat. To even bring that up and try to use that angle to justify his reaction in all this, I find extremely patronising. Not to be harsh or mean to anyone, I know nothing was meant by it and this is the only comment I'll make as far as that's concerned, but that's an absolute cop out. He is who he is and his pride has taken an almighty beating at being humbled for the first time in his career, by a bloke who has stood up to him and told him how it is and he doesn't like it. And you only have to see how petulant and petty he was the other week when he blanked Neville live on Sky because Neville, one of his long time team mates, had to call him out for his dick move walking off early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted November 14, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted November 14, 2022 He's a ridiculous tit. Don't care how good of a player he is/was. This interview alone is reason enough for him never to play for Man Utd again and should be a non-negotiable red flag for any other club to sign him. Most people don't like personalities who are so arrogant and over confident that it comes at the expense of any self-awareness or humility, but I think it rubs me up the wrong way even more than most people. I really can't think of a type of person who irritates me more. There is so much to respect about people with an enormous, generational talent who retain their humility and don't let it define their entire personality. Ronaldo is completely lacking in that. This is a guy who really won't cope well when he's forced to retire because his body finally screams enough and he's forced to face up to who he actually is as a human being outside of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadLinesman Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 I know several people that have lost children, both personally and professionally. They didn’t act like massive cunts in the immediate aftermath or the months/years that passed. What a truly awful excuse to try and use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Viva la FCB+ Posted November 14, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted November 14, 2022 Sure as fuck glad he didnt end up coming our way. What a self entitled prick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reluctant Striker Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Losing a baby wouldn't itself make someone who isn't usually a petulant idiot into one. And it shouldn't be a magic excuse it all away card. But when people go through a traumatic &/or frustrating time, the worst personality traits can be cranked up a notch or 2. Ronaldo has always been a petulant idiot. From overshimmying at 17 to stomping around at 37, it's the same personality on show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 I don't think people are talking enough about how all of this is quite entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machado Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Yikes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machado Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Rick said: He has dozens of people around him advising him on everything, and a lot of them would have given him the advice that this interview is fucking stupid. Trust me, not one of them did. The people he surrounds himself with are well known among the Portuguese public. A man-child would only get along with yes men and remove from their lives anyone who is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy Posted November 14, 2022 Moderator Share Posted November 14, 2022 Just now, Machado said: Trust me, not one of them did. The people he surrounds himself with are well known among the Portuguese public. A man-child would only get along with yes men and remove from their lives anyone who is not. So basically like Kanye West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Tommy said: So basically like Kanye West. *Ye. Stop deadnaming him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Machado said: Yikes? Would love to know the interaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tar-Mairon Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 He was always a prick and never ever the true professional his defenders talked him up as. He never actually cared about any of the team's he played for, he was just a ruthlessly ambitious egotist that wanted to be the best whereas professionals would always put the club first. See how he'd always throw tantrums even when his team scored if he wasn't the one to score. Dedication and professionalism got mixed up in people's heads. He's one of the most unprofessional to have played the game and was never going to be a mentor for the young players coming through as he never had it in him. The difference between now and before is that now he can't back it up on the pitch. Diminishing returns. While his monumental talent always dwarfed his lack of professionalism, it was worth it. Now, he has lost everything that once made him worth it. It's his inability to accept any of this that's the most embarrassing.The time comes for all players where the mind may be willing and fresh as it ever was but the body can't cope with it. Most players accept it with dignity but he cannot, he still genuinely believes he is the best player in the world and that everyone else is against him for not seeing it. The level of delusion combined with his natural immaturity (look at his Rooney and Neville remarks - I cannot believe a 37 year old with his life experience came out with that) and pettiness has made it untenable now and although United should never have gotten him back, they have to back Ten Hag which includes terminating his contract if they have to. Mind you, I did laugh at his Solskjaer comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tar-Mairon Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11427753/GRAEME-SOUNESS-Cristiano-Ronaldos-Manchester-United-career-ending-manner-sad.html This is why this fool was such a terrible manager. If he'd managed this Ronaldo, he'd have knocked him out. Pundits like he and Keane (although Keane is obviously projecting) genuinely believe that United are Cristiano Ronaldo Football Club and that nothing is more important than pandering to his ego and delusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Sacking him would be rewarding. Whilst it probably isn't ethical to have him play with the kids given that he is an unregistered sex offender. Difficult situation for Man Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Not seen the interview and won't be making any effort to do so... If I wanted to see someone crying for an hour I would just look in the mirror at home the next time I open one of my energy bills... For all his achievements this is how I will always remember him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted November 15, 2022 Administrator Share Posted November 15, 2022 15 minutes ago, Bluewolf said: Not seen the interview and won't be making any effort to do so... If I wanted to see someone crying for an hour I would just look in the mirror at home the next time I open one of my energy bills... For all his achievements this is how I will always remember him.. Not this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Stan said: Not this? All the crying in general.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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